Monday, February 28, 2005

What if those supporting Terri's death are right?

First off, let me make it clear that I am only lending credence to the other side's arguments for the sake of pointing out how ridiculous they are.

A poster on TheologyWeb's forum has been trying to argue that Terri is dead. Her body remains alive, but, he claims, her personality is gone. She has no mind left. She's not Terri anymore. "Terri the person" is dead, he claims. "The person that was Terri is no more. Terri Shiavo no longer exists. Terri is dead, what we see laying on the bed there is all that remains."

Okay, fine. She's not there. The body is just a mindless husk. It can't think or feel anything. No joy. No sorrow. No fear. No pain.

So, then, why again is Terri being put to death?

It is claimed that Terri said she wouldn't want to live "like that" when she saw a person in a coma in a movie. (See my earlier post below about the difference between not wanting to live some way and wanting to be put to death.) Well, guess what, all you supporters of Terri's death. By your own arguments, Terri isn't living "like that." By your own arguments, Terri (the person) is dead. By your own arguments, she no longer exists. By your own arguments, she is not suffering.

So, then, why again is Terri being put to death?

Terri's death would cause much pain, sorrow and suffering to her parents and many, many other people.

So, then, why again is Terri being put to death?

Michael Schiavo has obviously gotten over any grief he might have felt regarding Terri. He's currently engaged to another woman and they have already had children together.

So, then, why again is Terri being put to death?

Sunday, February 27, 2005

Howard Dean once again shows us where he keeps his head

Dean lays it on thick and breaks my Irony Meter:
Dean told the Hiebert fund-raiser that gay marriage was a Republican diversion from discussions of ballooning deficits and lost American jobs. That presents an opportunity to attract moderate Republicans, he said.

“Moderate Republicans can’t stand these people (conservatives), because they’re intolerant. They don’t think tolerance is a virtue,” Dean said, adding: “I’m not going to have these right-wingers throw away our right to be tolerant.”

Oh, but the moderate Democrats just love you and your "holier-and-more-tolerant-than-thou" liberal cohorts, don't they, Howie? Hmm... Let's see... Who was it who said "I hate Republicans and everything they stand for?" Who could've possibly made that disgustingly intolerant comment that made no distinction between moderate and conservative Republicans? I just don't know? Could it be...


Nah. Just one of his idiot human stooges. Nyuk nyuk nyuk!

And concluding his backyard speech with a litany of Democratic values, he added: “This is a struggle of good and evil. And we’re the good.”

Another superbly "tolerant" statement. Imagine what the liberals would be bellowing had just a statement been made by a Republican about them. Yep, you guessed it:


Pull your head out, Howie. You're only embarrassing yourself and your party.

More thoughts about Terri

Terri had no will or any other written directives regarding this situation she's in. The claim is that while she was watching a movie on TV with her husband, there was a scene of someone in a coma on life-support. Terri allegedly said that she wouldn't want to live like that. Honestly, how many of us wouldn't express the same sentiment? I wouldn't want to live like that, either, but that's NOT the same as expressing that I would want to be put to death if I end up in such a state. I wouldn't want to live like that, but I also wouldn't want to be put to death if I end up in such a state. Anyway, it's ridiculous that the courts have relied upon nothing but hearsay regarding Terri's alleged wishes. If there's no written directive or any other clear indication directly from a person regarding their wishes about being on life-support (BTW, Terri is not on life-support - the only help she needs is a feeding tube), then the courts should take a conservative, life-preserving position.

What were Terri's wishes regarding her marriage?

Do you think Terri Schaivo would have wished to remain married to a man who is engaged to another woman and has had children with her already? I wonder if she ever made her wishes regarding that known. And if she had, I wonder if Michael would fight as hard to fulfill those wishes as he is to kill her.

Our answer to the Democratic Underground

Conservative Underground. As a sign that this new website is threatening to liberals, DU members have already started trolling and attempting to impersonate conservative bloggers.

Saturday, February 26, 2005

They should pay him in indian head nickels...

Barking moonbat extraordinaire Ward Churchill looks like he might make out like a bandit after all the crap he's pulled:
University of Colorado officials are considering offering Ward Churchill an early retirement package that could end an increasingly uncomfortable standoff with the controversial professor.

You just gotta know that he'll hold out for as much as he can get. He'll just continue to screw everyone he can until the end. He doesn't deserve one red cent, but he'll likely get a very tidy sum. I'm glad I'm not a tax-paying citizen of Colorado right about now.

Friday, February 25, 2005

According to MSM headlines, Terri's fate is contradictory

First we have Reuters, which states: "Judge Orders Florida Woman's Feeding Tube Removed"

Then we have AP, which states: "Fla. Woman's Feeding Tube to Stay in Place"


UPDATE: The AP changed their headline: "Man Cleared to Remove Wife's Feeding Tube."

Terri's Fight website offline due to heavy traffic

I wonder if that's why the picture-link won't show up on the right.

Thursday, February 24, 2005

I've joined the MOB

That's the Minnesota Organization of Blogs. See the graphic in my sidebar and the official blogroll a bit below it. I didn't even realize the MOB "blogfather," Chad the Elder of Fraters Libertas had accepted my request to join until I saw my Site Meter referrals tonight. Very cool!

So, hello fellow MOB members! Hello MOB fans! Thanks for stopping by!

Wednesday, February 23, 2005

A blog for my liberal fans

You'll love it: Blame Bush.

Tuesday, February 22, 2005

Terri Schiavo

The stay (of execution) was allowed to expire today, but a new, temporary stay has been issued until tomorrow.

Monday, February 21, 2005

Why the left fears homeschoolers

A cartoonist at the Arizona Daily Star felt the need to unfairly and unjustly portray homeschoolers' parents as child abusers (and as Richard Nixon, apparently - good observation, Dawn) based upon 3 stories about abuse. But what's the real story behind the bashing of homeschoolers and their parents? Jon of Kirkcentric has the answer:
The scariest army to the ungodly isn’t North Korean or Russian or even the faceless hatred of al Qaida.

It’s an army of faithful Christians, uncontrolled and unseen by the authorities and marching beneath the same awesome banner.

They fight because we advance.

Absolutely and amen, Jon!

I just sent a letter to that paper. Here's what I wrote (with the links not in HTML form, of course):

To the editor:

I am absolutely outraged that you would let such a disgusting cartoon depict homeschoolers' parents as child abusers. On the webpage for the cartoon, you seemingly dismiss the rightful criticism you've received by pointing to the supposedly "more complete context" of 3 stories of abuse. Alright. Fair enough. I guess we can then also portray public schools as state-sponsored sexual abuse centers based upon a recent study that found a shockingly large percentage (15%) of students will be victims of sexual abuse by public school employees before they graduate. It would only be fair to see a fitting cartoon by Fitzsimmons reflecting that report appear in your paper very soon. Unfortunately, I don't hold any hope of that ever happening. It's easy to both bash homeschoolers and their parents while ignoring the gross abuses of the oh-so-perfect public school system.

Remember, free speech is a right, but when it is abused to unfairly and unjustly smear innocent people, it becomes a crime.

Definitely NOT David vs. Goliath

More like ant vs. my size 12 foot. The CanadianCynicCrackpot thinks he can take on Powerline. Too bad he's too chicken to go toe-to-toe with them and can only muster up a couple of cheap shots. Fair warning about bad language on that second one, and on CC's blog in general (if you bother to waste your time reading more of it, that is - don't expect too much worthwhile).

If you care to know what was behind Hindrocket's email outburst that CC is babbling about, look here. There's more to the story than CC or any other lefty blogger is willing to share. Heck, if I came under attack like that, I'd probably end up briefly losing my temper and swearing, too. These moonbats. They're really not nice at all.

A good sign that the Gannon non-story is dead

I've avoided this issue until now for two reasons: (1) this non-story is not worth my time and (2) other fine blogs (e.g. Powerline and Wizbang) have already performed a post mortem, stuck it in a casket and buried it in the earth. Try as they might, the liberals just can't breathe more life into this non-story. They're trying, though, and now is the time for the most insane moonbat twists to enter the picture. Hindrocket at Powerline tells us about emails they've received:
The meltdown continues. Here is the latest from our email inbox: Jeff Gannon and Karl Rove are secretly lovers! I'm not making this up; not only have we heard about this theory via hate mail from lefties, a reader (a sane one, that is) also says this is popping up all over AOL's political discussion sites. It's just about time for the men in white coats to intervene, I think.

They're going to need large doses of sedatives.

Sunday, February 20, 2005

Woah... Better than I expected.

I signed up for the TTLB Blogosphere Ecosystem last night and expected to not get very high up when the database updated. Lo and behold, I jumped from "Insignificant Microbe" to "Slithering Reptiles." I'm listed at #5410, which is at the bottom (because I'm new, probably) of a tie that goes up to #5242. Well, anyway, I'm the top blog with "shock" in the title. Ha!

Terri Schiavo

Terri Schiavo's fight could end this week:
Courts expected to settle Schiavo's fate this week


Early this week, the 2nd District Court of Appeal in Lakeland or Pinellas Circuit Judge George W. Greer could end her parents' seven-year legal battle to keep their daughter alive, paving the way for her husband to carry out what he says were her wishes and remove the feeding tube that sustains her unconscious state.

This is just wrong. Terri is NOT in an "unconscious state," a "persistant vegetative state," or any state other than being mentally disabled.

,If so, his lawyer says Michael Schiavo would be authorized to have the feeding tube disconnected immediately.

Let's just be clear on what that means. Terri will no longer receive food or water. She will die of starvation/dehydration. It is a slow (it could take up to two weeks), painful, ignoble death that even animals are protected from by law. But this is a human life we're talking about. These days, human life is worth less than the lives of the pests that invade our homes.

Or either court could hand Bob and Mary Schindler something they have been successful at gaining in the past: more time to pursue other appeals.

In seven years, the Schindlers have won few court rulings. Again and again, Greer and the Lakeland appeals court have agreed their son-in-law provided convincing proof that his wife would have rejected the feeding tube that has kept her alive since she suffered a heart attack in 1990, enduring precious minutes without oxygen.

This "convincing proof" pretty much amounts to his say-so about an off-hand remark Terri supposedly said while watching a movie on TV. Terri has no will or anything else that undeniably indicated her wishes regarding a situation like this. Michael Schiavo's behavior since the accident has been, well, less than stellar. He's had violent run-ins with Terri's family, he's denied any attempts at rehabilitative treatment for Terri, he's been engaged to and had children with another woman, he has deliberately sought out doctors who would agree with him about killing his wife and blocked access for any others, etc. His accounts of what happened to Terri have been contradictory at times. I just don't understand why any judge would trust this guy.

In any case, we will watch and pray for Terri and her family - her real family who wants her to live. Michael needs prayers, too, but of a different sort.

Media Matters tries (and fails) to paint CBS as conservative

Anyone with at least two brain cells to knock together knows that CBS has had a liberal bias. I guess that explains why the conservative-hating Media Matters is trying to prove that the "fake, but accurate" news organization is actually conservative. This claim is laughable simply on its face (especially after Rathergate), but their "evidence" - counting the number of times Republicans and Democrats have appeared on the "CBS Evening NEWS" - is a joke! The excellent invests as much time and effort as is necessary (i.e. not much) to debunk the claim:
Of the 23 times Cluchey counted videos of these senators, only 3 times were they quoted as saying something that was either pro-Bush or conservative. Eight times, they were showed saying something anti-Bush or anti-conservative. The other 12 video clips of the senators featured them opining on the legislative process or on non-political subjects such as steroid use among baseball players.

Cluchey's flawed analytical model of not looking closely at context also prevented him from counting two reporter summaries of McCain's statement that he has "no confidence" in Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld. In the course of applying the peer-review that George Soros should have paid for, we also noticed that Cluchey did not provide context for any McCain remarks or many other senatorial statements (see table below). also observed that the MM "study" jumbles the dates and issues in the context it does manage to provide.

RatherBiased also cites an insightful comment by a reader:
The study takes place during the time period immediately following the forged documents incident, immediately after the election and during the Iraqi election success. Find any station where the Republicans didn't look good during this time period. You can make stuff up all you want, fake a memo here, but the facts is the facts.

Media Matters is full of it and only the most insane "dedicated" liberals continue to use it as a reliable source.

Thursday, February 17, 2005

DUDs: Democrats Under Dean

Looks like I'm the first to coin the term "DUDs." Cool. Let's hope it catches on.

Howard Dean steers DUDs away from "pro-choice"

The Screaming Weenie, Howard Dean, thinks the Democratic Party needs to stop using the term "pro-choice" because it would alienate conservative voters by making Democrats look too pro-abortion. (Too pro-abortion?) Sorry, Howie, but it's not the terms you use that alienate conservative voters. It's your support of abortions at any time for any reason. Changing the term you use to describe yourselves doesn't change your support for the brutal slaughter of tens of millions of unborn children. See, you could call yourselves "pro-kalukalafunkers" if you wanted to, but conservatives would still be alienated from your party by your support of abortion.

John Hawkins at Right Wing News muses:
I'm not sure which is more obnoxious, the idea that Democrats should hide what they believe from the voters or that Howard Dean thinks anyone is dumb enough to actually buy the idea that the Dems aren't pro-abortion.

These are the DUDs (Democrats Under Dean). These are the people who asked, "How could 59,054,087 people be so dumb?" These are the people who believe President Bush has the IQ of a turnip. Of course they think conservatives are dumb enough to buy their ridiculous rhetoric.

You know, my guess as to what the DUDs will eventually call themselves is "pro-health," since they are always crowing about "protecting women's health." After that, they will probably have the gall to figure out some way to call themselves "pro-life."

UPDATE: A big S&B; welcome to Dawn Patrol fans! And a big ol' gushy "thank you!" to Dawn herself.

UPDATE 2: Sorry about the error in that first sentence, folks. I did some cut-n-pasting/click-n-dragging just before I posted it last night and forgot to make sure everything sounded okay. It's fixed now.

Hallelujah! All charges dropped against Christian protesters in Philadelphia!

'Philly 5' Are Free!
(AgapePress) - All charges have been dropped against four Christians who were arrested in October for sharing the gospel at a pro-homosexual event in Philadelphia. Charges pending against a minor who was also arrested at the time are expected to be dismissed as well.


On Thursday (February 17), Court of Commons Pleas Judge Pamela Dembe dismissed the charges, ruling that peaceful expressive activities like those of the Christian demonstrators are fully protected by the First Amendment. She also stated that prosecutors were unable to make even a minimal showing of any criminal conduct.


Wednesday, February 16, 2005

Howard Dean as DNC head = more Republicans in office

From an AP article:
"You think the Republican National Committee could get this many people of color in a single room? Only if they had the hotel staff in here."

Howard Dean at the Democratic black caucus on Feb 11, 2005.

Obviously Dean thinks that hotels' staff are predominantly black. If a conservative Republican had said anything like that, they'd have been lynched as racist by the MSM and the rest of the left.

Well, on a good note, more gems like this from the Screaming Weenie over the next four years will just guarantee that Republicans will win more elections in 2006 and 2008.

Monday, February 14, 2005

How DailyDean gets so many hits

This is a clever scam. Truth Laid Bear has a page with lists weblogs by average daily traffic. DailyDean is #1 with a whopping 420k hits per day. #2 is Instapundit with 161k hits. Quite the difference! At first glance, certain people without a whit of insight (and who like to unjustifiably call people liars) would think that DailyDean actually is the most powerful force in the blogosphere. Sadly, these people don't look farther than what they want to see. Take a look at DailyDean's "By Referrals" page on SiteMeter. Notice anything odd? (Note that the following lists are always changing, though the story they tell will always be the same.)
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It's plain to anyone with brains that most of DailyDean's hit numbers are generated internally. I have little doubt that it was designed that way for the express purpose of driving up the numbers. Ignoring the "unknowns," we find only 10 referrals from outside DailyDean. 10 out of 63 (100 minus 37 "unknowns"). So, if we apply that ratio to DailyDean's numbers on TruthLaidBear we find that DailyDean gets roughly about 67k external hits, which would place it at #9 on the list instead of #1.

A minor scam, yes. Nothing illegal. Just incredibly dishonest.

Saturday, February 12, 2005

The U.N.'s Congo sex scandal: Where's the MSM?

Michelle Malkin gives us a rundown of the U.N.'s latest scandal:
...Didier Bourguet.... [is] a United Nations senior official from France accused of running an Internet pedophile ring in the Congo, where the U.N. was supposed to be protecting vulnerable people.

What's disturbing is that this scandal is not new! It's been around for months. Very little has been reported or done about it. As Michelle points out, the L.A. Times reports that "Bourguet's case is the only one that has been prosecuted among 150 allegations against about 50 soldiers and U.N. civilian officials who have served in the Congo peacekeeping mission." Can you imagine the outrage and outcry there would have been had the U.S. dragged its feet on investigating and prosecuting those involved in the Abu Ghraib scandal like the U.N. is doing with this scandal? It's ridiculous!

And where is the mainstream media? They were all over Abu Ghraib, so why not this? I guess for something like this to be a top news story day in and day out it needs to be perpetrated by the U.S. armed forces or the Bush administration.

Friday, February 11, 2005

The Bible, gay marriage, and moving goalposts

About a month ago, our angry liberal friend CanadianCynic had a period where he was frothing at the mouth several times about conservatives supposedly "moving the goalposts" in relation to various issues. (It almost became a catchphrase for him.) Considering that and his obvious and violent disdain for all things Christian, I wonder what he'd have to say about this:
The Bible and Heterosexual Marriage (

Alabama state Rep. Alvin Holmes promised on the floor of the House to give $700 to any person who could show him a biblical passage stating that marriage is to be between man and woman. When someone took him up on the offer, citing several passages, he reportedly replied:
Anybody could have any interpretation they want of the Bible but that's not my interpretation.

He has apparently now upped his offer to $5,000, apparently growing in his confidence that he can deny the handbook on Absolute Truth.

Well, of course he can be confident about that. Anytime someone proves him wrong, he can just move the goalposts by tossing out the old "that's not my interpretation" line. How completely unclever and thoroughly dishonest. CanadianCynic would no doubt approve.

UPDATE: Here's what Don Johnson (no, not that Don Johnson) of Runaway Planet had to say on his blog:
That is obviously a ridiculous and unsavory way to handle the wager, but let's clarify just why. Holmes initial claim was that the Bible didn't dictate that marriage is to be between a man and a woman. He was so sure of this supposed fact that he wagered $700.00 just to make the point. Now in order to make this claim, and in order for the wager to work, he had to be appealing to some common, objective standard of literary interpretation. After all, he was appealing to scripture for vindication of his position and putting money on the fact that his position was correct.

If you are going to appeal to a book for proof of your position or challenge people with monetary rewards to prove you wrong, you have to expect people to be able to interpret that book the same way you do. I assume that would mean some sort of "plain sense" reading of the text - taking the words at face value. You can't make a wager or support your position based on a floating, subjective standard of interpretation such as the one Mr. Holmes appealed to when confronted with the texts. It destroys the support for your initial proposition and makes the bet ridiculous.

Well said, Don!

Wednesday, February 09, 2005

Student's Bush=Hitler "art" project gets an 'A'

The lovely and charming Michelle Malkin (yeah, I'm a kiss-up - sue me) reports on the world of crappy high school art:
Jeffrey Eden devised his award-winning project less than 30 minutes after his high-school art teacher asked him to express a thought or two in a three-dimensional way.So, in the wake of last year's polarizing election and the war in Iraq, the 17-year-old built an abstract scene comparing President Bush's war policies with Adolf Hitler's pillage of Europe.The student's diorama-like assemblage juxtaposes Hitler quotes with Bush statements, Nazi swastikas with American flags, desert-colored toy soldiers with olive plastic figures. And so on. Eden said he's trying to point out certain similarities between the U.S.-led war in Iraq and the German blitzkrieg - without actually equating Hitler to Bush.

Michelle exposes the utter bogusness of that last line by pointing out that the project was named "Bush/Hitler and How History Repeats Itself."

Take a look at the picture of the project on Michelle's blog. I'm no art critic or teacher, but even I can determine that the basic construction alone (plastic army men passes for art now?) is worthy of little more than a 'D,' and that's only because the student put at least some work into it. Not much, I'm sure, but some. The originality of the project is zilch, too - the "Bush=Hitler" comparisons have been floating around for years, now.

It makes sense, though, that he got an 'A.' Art teachers tend to be flaming, dyed-in-the-wool liberals who agree that "Bush=Hitler." I'm sure all the student really had to do was write that phrase on a piece of paper and he would've gotten the same grade.


UPDATE: Speaking of idiots, I had the wrong url for the link to Michelle Malkin's blog entry. My bad. Let this be a lesson to all: don't blog when wiped out from a cold and overly-tired.

Tuesday, February 08, 2005

Battle Hymn of the Republic, verse 5

We sang the Battle Hymn of the Republic in church this past Sunday and I found verse 5 to be quite relevent in this day and age:
In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea,
With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me:
As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free,
While God is marching on.

"As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free."

Monday, February 07, 2005

Twin Cities Ind. Media Center says, "We can't handle the truth!"

Blogger Melissa Andersen led me to a webpage covering the inauguration protests at the U of Minnesota. The pictures and text are so far to the left that they are in danger of toppling over. Suffice it to say, I just had to leave a comment. I first made two remarks about a the second and third photos: "Free Fallujah by giving control back to the freedom-hating Islamofacists!" and "Wave your flag with pride while hiding your face in shame!" I then addressed two things from the article: Ha'Aretz unconfirmed and untrustworthy report of President Bush saying that God told him to strike Al Qaida and Saddam, and the bogus "100,000 Iraqi civilian" deaths claim. Sadly, the Independant Media Center doesn't seem to be interested in the truth. My comment has since been deleted.

Thursday, February 03, 2005

DailyDean opposed to dissenting opinions

On DailyDean, I posted a couple messages in this thread regarding the strange double-standard Kos has regarding his opposition to soon-to-be-AG Alberto Gonzales and his comments ("Screw 'em.") about those American contractors killed in Iraq. Those comments were deleted after a short time.

Then I posted a comment in this thread about the Democrats booing Republicans at the Paul Wellstone Memorial Political Rally and it was deleted, too, but much more quickly than the last two.

Obviously, Kos and his lackeys have every right to remove whatever comments they wish, but it is a strange thing to do for members of a group that supposedly believes in unlimited freedom of speech. As we have already seen, the left likes to complain about the censoring of opinions, but they have no problem doing it themselves.

There's a word for these people: hypocrites.

UPDATE: Now they're going back and deleting my old posts! Had three from December earlier, now one is gone. ROFL!

UPDATE 2: And now the deed is complete. Not only have the remaining two posts been deleted, but now they've entirely removed my ability to post at all! LMBO! Yeah, and conservatives like me are supposed to be the anti-free speech facists.

Tuesday, February 01, 2005

The Beeb corrects stats on deaths in Iraq

The Most Impudent One reports on a BBC correction that will definitely not make the Bush-bashers happy (if they even see it, which is doubtful, and believe it, which is even more doubtful):
The BBC has apologised for incorrectly broadcasting figures which suggested more Iraqi civilians had been killed by coalition and Iraqi forces than by insurgents.

...the Iraqi Ministry of Health then clarified that the figures included not just civilians, but also insurgents and Iraqi security forces. And it said that the phrase "military operations" referred to Iraqis killed by insurgents as well as coalition or Iraqi forces. The ministry said the BBC had misinterpreted the figures...

Now, if only a correction would be issued by the responsible parties on that bogus "100,000 deaths" figure onto which the Bush-bashers have latched.

Iraqi "minutemen" reduced to kidnapping G.I. Joe dolls?

First, the original story:

Web Site Claims GI Captured in Iraq

Notice the oddness of the picture. Now these:

Who Will Be The First? (Wizbang)

Drudge Report headline

And finally, the "corrected" AP story (which simply adds a couple more ambiguous statements about the claim being unconfirmed):

Web Site Claims GI Captured in Iraq

Be it Iraqis or Americans behind this, it's a hoax nonetheless. A pretty funny one, too, considering that the MSM pretty much fell for it.

UPDATE: Just reported: U.S. forces are on the lookout for a suspect in this kidnapping. Description: black boots, blue uniform emblazoned with a red snake, blue helmet with solid silver faceplate, answers to the name "Cobra Commander."

UPDATE 2: A great comment here.

UPDATE 3: Ace of Spades HQ reports on more terrorist threats and who might be the mastermind behind them.

UPDATE 4: Best. Comment. Ever! Here (by Shawn).

Analysis of the "Bush lied, people died" mantra

Jay Tea of Wizbang tackles, pummels and buries one of the left's favorite canards here.

I'll add, too, that if you believe the "Bush lied, people died" screed, then you also have to believe that Kerry, Clinton and a host of other Democrats lied over the years as they all also stated that Saddam had WMDs. Any Bush-bashers want to take that position? No? Didn't think so.

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